Dear Heather,
Your letter was a gift, filled with such genuine kindness and layered with such vulnerability that I wanted to give back so I am writing this letter to you.
The truth is that I do have a fear of Christians. It seems silly to say that aloud when, intellectually, I know there are many good ones in the world but there is such a loud chorus from those who use their faith to deny others the respect and dignity they deserve that it is easy to forget that.
I grew up in Kansas, part of the Bible Belt, a state where people still teach creationism. I was baptized in the Baptist church before I understood what it meant and despite the fact that my parents weren’t particularly religious. In junior high school, I read the Bible cover to cover because I thought I should, because I thought doing so would make me “good” – though I admit to getting lost with all the begetting. I have family members who are born again Christians and some of them have accepted me and some of them have not. After coming out, there were people who stopped speaking to me and wouldn’t acknowledge Luisa and used religion to justify their response.
In college, I took “Women in the Bible” because I wanted to understand how feminists could be Christians and then took “Christian Scriptures” because I wanted to study the verses that were so often used against people like me.
For most of my life, Christianity has been an ominous whisper, a voice that calls for my attention and startles me but when I turn around, I find no one is there.
I have seen what has been done in the name of Christianity and, while I know that it is a distortion, every time I meet someone who identifies as a Christian, I become guarded and prepare to defend myself.
When we met in August at BlogHer, I immediately felt a connection to you. It was a brief conversation but we laughed and there was that particular energy that makes you say to yourself, “Yes!” and do a little fist pump. I felt like you were someone I would like to get to know, someone with whom I wanted to work.
I came home and immediately went to check out your blog and the first post I read was one in which you referred to yourself as a Christian and talked about your faith in God. I felt that ominous whisper behind me once more and wondered what this might mean for us. I wondered, “Does she know I’m a lesbian?”, “Is she conservative?”, “How will I find the answers to these questions?” and “What will I do with the answers?”
But I never had to ask the questions because every word exchanged between us, every moment shared since our first meeting made me realize that the way I felt about you when we first met – that was the truth and the fear and worry had nothing to do with you.
Dorothy Allison wrote, “I would rather go naked than wear the coat the world has made for me.” I think of these words often because I want so much to be seen in all of my complexity. That is one of the reasons I write – to show that I am more than all that society ascribes to me because I identify as a lesbian. Now, this quote makes me think about you too, about the assumptions I made and the fear I felt. We are both shedding the coats the world has made for us and, as we do, there is such beauty in the raw, naked truth.
Of course, this is bigger than both of us. We live in a world in which people make assumptions and judgments about others constantly based simply on race and culture, religion and class, gender expression and sexual preference. With so much anger and frustration in the world, I often wonder how we can build community and create a culture of respect and I always come back to this: sometimes, we do it one person at a time, with honesty and a willingness to be vulnerable.
So, thank you. Thank you for your words and your faith and all that you do in the world.
We are going to do amazing things together.
With love,
Vikki







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Yes! Yes! Yes!
Thank you for this post, and Heathers too. I was raised as a conservative Christian, but I have always struggled with “believers” not loving and accepting everyone. Whenever I disagree with typical conservativism I am looked at with judgemental eyes like I am not as informed or I’m on a slippery slope to hell. Sigh!
Just want to say thank you for sharing your life through your eyes. It is compelling and encouraging and confirming. And it deeply saddens me to hear your pain that the world and the church have inflicted. For that I’m so sorry.
“I would rather go naked than wear the coat the world has made for me.”
I LOVE that. I feel the same way.
I am a Christian but feel so disenfranchised. It as though my faith has been taken over by an alien force that says it speaks for me, but it does not.
My faith has nothing whatsoever to do with your sexual behavior, or mine, which I promise you is probably more deviant from any so-called norm that being a lesbian. Just because it is with a man doesn’t mean that other Christians would approve of it anymore than they would approve of yours.
I don’t know where we got off thinking it is our place to “approve” of anyone anyway. That isn’t the message of the cross by even a large stretch. And I am sorry that others have used the cross to bash you over the head. Honestly, I really think they have no idea what they are doing.
Chloe,
“I am a Christian but feel so disenfranchised. It as though my faith has been taken over by an alien force that says it speaks for me, but it does not.”
Totally true for me, I got contacted by a pollster after the election asking me who I voted for, asked me about the “big evangelical” issues and my personal believes then asked me if I was a Christian and just like that I get lumped into this stereotype that if anyone knew me would know is not me. I love this conversation between Vicky and Heather. It’s high time all of us said “ENOUGH” and just had real conversations with each other, without labels and shame.
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i want to print this, and read it over and over.. i am heartbroken by those who represent my faith, i am thankful you’ve seen one who doesn’t.. i feel so caught in the middle – it’s scary to step out against the “conservative christian culture” no matter what “side” you are on.. however, i can not align myself with something so blatantly hateful towards God’s children… In Jesus name we are to care for the poor, love our neighbors more than ourselves, seek His Kingdom, and love Him.. i love the lord, deeply – i love the way He has literally rescued me from a pit of despair, and set my feet on level ground.. i HATE that my older sister, can not have those same opportunities within the majority of church settings..while God can work beyond His broken people,I hate, and grieve the misrepresentation.. those who say I love you, but – do not follow God’s word- they have transformed it into something that allows them to stay sheltered in ignorance.. God is love.. We all have areas we fall short, He doesn’t ask us to point them out for others -He asks us to walk closely with Him..
i 100% believe if Jesus were to return today, we would not find Him at a baptist church, or probably in any culturally christian location. i pray those who have been deeply wounded by the missteps of Christians would find God to be loving, and healing – exactly who He is.. i pray God would drown out the white noise BS taking place, and protect you from the figurative stones being thrown by those claiming to be His people. why He doesn’t just roll back the clouds and strike them down? i have no idea.. i think part of what I am seeing is that He loves us all, including them. His love knows no bounds – has no prerequisites, and really isn’t controlled by our doing..i am so sorry for the wounds you’ve experienced.. i love this letter and will look forward to reading more of your thoughts in the future…
emily
Thank you Emily.
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I read the letter you and your friend shared through Jen Hatmakers blog. I am commenting before reading any other comments. I hope they have been positive. I think your letter was AWESOME. I am a Christian. I know that sometimes “my people” {grin} treat anyone we don’t understand or to be honest do not care to understand with fear and/or contempt. I’m sorry about that. I wish I knew why. Sometimes I think it is fear. I’m not sure what the fear is of exactly but I think it is based in fear. Sometimes I just think that Christians think we are better than other people. I’m trying to do better about being loving and kind. Your letter helps remind me to keep trying. Thanks for being transparent.
All of the comments here have been supportive. It turns out that I took less of a risk than Heather did.
“Christianity has been an ominous whisper, a voice that calls for my attention and startles me but when I turn around, I find no one is there.”
I hope if my Christianity calls out to someone that when they turn around I am there saying hello.
It seems like you will be.
Vikki- Please know you are loved. I’m sorry that the Christians who use their beliefs to defend their judgement are louder than those of us that simply love everyone and long for everyone to know love in their lives. I’m sorry that people who refuse to understand your life actually have the ability to decide whether you get to enjoy the same rights as themselves. Keep writing and keep working to make this world a better place. I’m standing with you.
Thank you. It will actually take allies to bring equality. That’s the way it has always worked.
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Wow. Tears flowed and flowed and flowed as I read the exchange between you and Heather.
I have two friends who have come out since graduating from the conservative Christian university we attended together. They were afraid of what we, their friends, would say once they admitted the truth and afraid of being rejected.
I am proud to say that NOT ONE friend turned away or rebuked them. If anything, we gathered closer to them as they struggled with being ostracized from their families – and we adopted them into our own families.
There are many, many Christians out there who do accept gay people – not just tolerate them or pretend they aren’t there – but truly accept and love them. I am heartened to see that love displayed between you and Heather in such a public forum.
Love love love love love this. It does get better.
I am so happy that your friend had friends like you. Keep being awesome!
I have struggled with this for a few years… when I finally came out of the closet I lost so many friends and it was so disheartening. These women I broke bread with I prayed with I taught Bible Studies with and suddenly I was shunned. Family members stopped letting me be around their children, friends would have nothing to do with me and it really took me a lot of years to come to terms with the fact that their opinion may have changed but His never did He still loved me. So when i was brave enough I wrote this post “And out of the closet came the lesbian that God Loves” I lost a lot of readers on my blog because of it but it is moments like this on the internet when I see such an outpouring of love that I am rejuvenated and hopeful! Thank you for your bravery!
if you want to read the post I wrote it’s here : http://www.punkerdoos.com/2011/03/and-out-of-closet-came-lesbian-that-god.html
Thank you again!!!!
Thank you for sharing your story here and I am glad you are finding peace.
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I just wanted to say that I am ‘one of them’, I guess. I’m a conservative Christian. Possibly even Evangelical, though I’ve never been entirely sure who Is and who Isn’t when that word comes into play.
But even as ‘that’ person…I am love. I have gay family and friends, and I love them. And I want them to be happy, and to have rights, and to not be hurt by the masses, day in and day out. WWJD and all.
It seems this conversation has helped some people to see that Christians aren’t all the same – we aren’t all shouting and picketing and hate-spewing – and I’m glad for that. But I wanted to say, too, that conservatives aren’t all like that, either. In fact, very few of the ones I’ve ever known ARE like that – it’s just that Those Kind are louder. Most of us make it our business to mind our own business and to just love and we do so quietly – too quietly, perhaps.
Just as the flag wavers at the gay pride parade attract more attention than the couple at the grocery store, the hate shouters detract from the love[ers]. {lol} We as a society have allowed that to happen. We’ve allowed our media and our politicians and our pastors to divide us, to make us feel that We are Here and They are There, and there is a Great Divide between us…and this saddens me. Because I truly believe that Christian or not, liberal or conservative, we all want mostly the same things. And left on our own, I truly believe we could come together and work it all out.
Thank you for conversations like this which remind us of that possibility.
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Bravo! Just read Heathers leatter and I cried and now read your letter and I am crying. I want to hug you and tell I have the same struggles with the christian community as you do even though I am straight. “For most of my life, Christianity has been an ominous whisper, a voice that calls for my attention and startles me but when I turn around, I find no one is there.” The cry of my heart is to love Jesus with all of my heart and to obey his command to love others. I hope that when people turn around that I am there with the hug and encouraging smile. Every day my prayer is to be Jesus with skin on to my family and whom ever I come into contact with in person or over the great big world of the web. God bless you and yours!